Pros and Canned

A London teacher gets sacked because the children claim he said something, err, unacceptable. The school didn’t feel the need to ask him about the issue before firing him; in fact, it didn’t even seem to be all that important whether he actually said it or not. The children were “very upset”, apparently, and that’s all that matters. Like how school-children get upset when something is “just so unfair” or they’re punished for being disruptive and so on. But perhaps this is different because it pertains to a matter of religion and religion is special and any getting upset over a matter of religion is automatically justified. So, what was it they claim he said anyway? Well, “pupils at the predominantly Muslim school claimed Mr McLuskey said most suicide bombers were Muslim.” So, is that even false? (That’s not a rhetorical question, I genuinely don’t know.) But if it’s true then it seems even weirder that he should be sacked for saying it. Perhaps some things are just off-limits even when you’re taking a lesson on the “pros and cons of religion”. Better just stick to the pros I guess.

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8 Responses to “Pros and Canned”


  1. 1 Manas Shaikh February 12, 2007 at 7:06 pm

    Pleasecheck this.

    Will you be surprized if I tell you that the single larges terrorist organisation, that has done most number of terror attacks is a primarily Hindu organisation?

    LTTE is responsible for roughly 80 suicide attacks of 188 trackable attacks in the last twenty years or so.

    Did you know that some of the Hezbollah suicide attackers were christians atheists and communists? I bet you didn’t.

    Please please open your eyes.

  2. 2 Ed February 12, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    That was slightly patronising. It didn’t seem to answer the question either.

  3. 3 Shaikh February 12, 2007 at 7:47 pm

    Okay so here’s my answer: to say that most of the terrorists are Muslims is
    1. Wrong
    2. Irresponsible
    3. possibly even racist.

    I am against as strict a action as sacking the teacher. She should just have been told that she was wrong. Unless it is proved beyond doubt that she was being racist, sacking her does not stand.

  4. 4 Ed February 12, 2007 at 7:58 pm

    I’m glad you agree about the injustice of the sacking. It’s quite possible that the statement (if it was actually made, which is still in question) was factually wrong, but I’ve been given no reason to think so as of yet. I can’t see how it could be thought of as racist though as it has nothing to do with race.

  5. 5 Shaikh February 12, 2007 at 8:22 pm

    But I gave you numbers, didn’t I?

    You should read Pape. Robert Pape. You can sure google him up. There’s a “Conversations with History” session with him up on the google videos. I am sure you can find it easily. So i’m not linking it.

  6. 6 Ed February 12, 2007 at 8:33 pm

    I only skimmed so could be wrong, but those numbers show that the largest single group with 75 out of 186 suicide attacks was the non-Muslim LTTE. Fair enough, but if more than 75 of the remaining 111 were carried out by Muslims then the statement’s still true. More importantly, however, is that the figures are all pre-9/11 – so they don’t include any of the Iraq or Afghanistan statistics.

    Thanks for the tip.

  7. 7 Shaikh February 12, 2007 at 9:26 pm

    Hmm…
    If 75 is from a single organisation, do you think the rest is going to be from Muslims alone? Forget the Irish resistance/terrorists; even Hezbollah has recruited Christians and Atheists as suicide bombers.

    And we are leaving out a lot more.

    He did not really classify the data into Muslim /Non-Muslim, so I don’t know who accounts for how much.


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